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		<title>Comment on Part 1 of interview with Jared Ball, author of I Mix What I Like!: A Mixtape Manifesto in The OC Weekly! by Suzanne</title>
		<link>http://www.revolutionbythebook.akpress.org/part-1-of-interview-with-jared-ball-author-of-i-mix-what-i-like-a-mixtape-manifesto-in-the-oc-weekly/#comment-494</link>
		<dc:creator>Suzanne</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 28 Jun 2011 16:01:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Part 2 is up! It&#039;s here: &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.revolutionbythebook.akpress.org/part-2-of-jared-ball-interview-on-the-oc-weekly/&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;http://www.revolutionbythebook.akpress.org/part-2-of-jared-ball-interview-on-the-oc-weekly/&lt;/a&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Part 2 is up! It&#8217;s here: <a href="http://www.revolutionbythebook.akpress.org/part-2-of-jared-ball-interview-on-the-oc-weekly/" rel="nofollow">http://www.revolutionbythebook.akpress.org/part-2-of-jared-ball-interview-on-the-oc-weekly/</a></p>
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		<title>Comment on Tonight: Marshall Law launch event in Baltimore! by kate</title>
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		<dc:creator>kate</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 04 May 2011 14:02:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Also, check out this great interview with co-authors Eddie Conway and Dominque Stevenson with Jared Ball, author of AK&#039;s forthcoming title, I Mix What I Like!: A Mixtape Manifesto. AK author mutual aid!

http://www.voxunion.com/?p=3703</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Also, check out this great interview with co-authors Eddie Conway and Dominque Stevenson with Jared Ball, author of AK&#8217;s forthcoming title, I Mix What I Like!: A Mixtape Manifesto. AK author mutual aid!</p>
<p><a href="http://www.voxunion.com/?p=3703" rel="nofollow">http://www.voxunion.com/?p=3703</a></p>
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		<title>Comment on Dancing with Dynamite: Ben Dangl’s latest journalistic adventure by kate</title>
		<link>http://www.revolutionbythebook.akpress.org/dancing-with-dynamite-ben-dangls-latest-journalistic-adventure/#comment-468</link>
		<dc:creator>kate</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 17 Nov 2010 19:19:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Just updated the post to mention the new interview with Ben that&#039;s up now on Alternet: http://www.alternet.org/world/148810/when_citizens_are_merely_political_spectators_they_get_rolled_over_by_the_political_class

Check it out!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Just updated the post to mention the new interview with Ben that&#8217;s up now on Alternet: <a href="http://www.alternet.org/world/148810/when_citizens_are_merely_political_spectators_they_get_rolled_over_by_the_political_class" rel="nofollow">http://www.alternet.org/world/148810/when_citizens_are_merely_political_spectators_they_get_rolled_over_by_the_political_class</a></p>
<p>Check it out!</p>
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		<title>Comment on An Open Letter to Glenn Beck by schalom.libertad</title>
		<link>http://www.revolutionbythebook.akpress.org/an-open-letter-to-glenn-beck/#comment-466</link>
		<dc:creator>schalom.libertad</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 08 Sep 2010 10:06:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Dear AK Press,
Sorry if this comes across polemical, but I found your &quot;Open Letter to Glenn Beck&quot; so ridiculous that I need to respond. I was surprised that you tell us the Open Letter is a result of &quot;deep deliberations.&quot; That makes it only the more embarrassing. With that said, when you speak of anarchism, keep in mind that you are speaking about it from your strange perspective, and are in no way the spokesperson for anarchists.
First off, you tried explaining to Beck how anarchism is different from communism. This is quite humorous. Do you think he cares? Don&#039;t you know that he is trying to get the new red-scare going and it doesn&#039;t matter what the differences are? The point for him is to present a threat to &quot;America,&quot; and facts are not important. If you don&#039;t grasp his project, your facts will do you no good. Remember, it is Fox News which presented the nonsense about weapons of mass destruction in Iraq. Facts didn&#039;t matter. Fear did. Same in this case.
Then you move on to say that you have a lot in common with Glenn Beck. Well, you said that &quot;anarchists&quot; do, but hey you should speak for yourself. Real anarchists oppose the Right-wing. Then you tell us how anarchists are simply more intelligent Glenn Beckers. So you see Beck as being sort of a midway point between &quot;the establishment&quot; and the Left? Bizarre worldview you have. Being that Beck is leading the conservative reactionary wave at the moment, most Leftists and anarchists see him as being a pivotal opponent, at complete odds with Left values and political objectives.
You try to tell us that we have commonality with Beck because he rants against the health care reform, against &quot;big government&quot;? Please! The Right always does that when they think those programs support forms of equality. Can&#039;t you see that his &quot;opposition to government intervention&quot; is also a market-oriented worldview, vastly different than anarchists&#039; vision of a bottom-up, democratically organized society? Here you come off looking like you support the neoliberals. Do you really mean that?
And you side with Beck against the healthcare reform, rather than pushing for demands for free, universal healthcare? What do you think that alliance of yours will bring? A collapse of the state and capitalism? Please. Dream on.
And then you tell us how you agree with the Tea Party wingnuts  because of their twisted &quot;anti-elitism&quot; and superficial resentment towards Wall Street. Do you know much about the Right&#039;s politics, and how they have always had a moralistic, superficial &quot;anti-capitalism&quot; that is based in Christian morality, not social justice or opposition to exploitation and capital accumulation?
And then you try to tell Glenn Beck that he is really a revolutionary, and that revolutionaries are good. Please. The conservative reaction sees itself as revolutionary when their party is not in office, or when they want to Republicans to go further with anti-immigrant legislation. &quot;Tea Party&quot;? &quot;Minutemen&quot;? Sorry, but your &quot;Open Letter&quot; is a real mess.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Dear AK Press,<br />
Sorry if this comes across polemical, but I found your &#8220;Open Letter to Glenn Beck&#8221; so ridiculous that I need to respond. I was surprised that you tell us the Open Letter is a result of &#8220;deep deliberations.&#8221; That makes it only the more embarrassing. With that said, when you speak of anarchism, keep in mind that you are speaking about it from your strange perspective, and are in no way the spokesperson for anarchists.<br />
First off, you tried explaining to Beck how anarchism is different from communism. This is quite humorous. Do you think he cares? Don&#8217;t you know that he is trying to get the new red-scare going and it doesn&#8217;t matter what the differences are? The point for him is to present a threat to &#8220;America,&#8221; and facts are not important. If you don&#8217;t grasp his project, your facts will do you no good. Remember, it is Fox News which presented the nonsense about weapons of mass destruction in Iraq. Facts didn&#8217;t matter. Fear did. Same in this case.<br />
Then you move on to say that you have a lot in common with Glenn Beck. Well, you said that &#8220;anarchists&#8221; do, but hey you should speak for yourself. Real anarchists oppose the Right-wing. Then you tell us how anarchists are simply more intelligent Glenn Beckers. So you see Beck as being sort of a midway point between &#8220;the establishment&#8221; and the Left? Bizarre worldview you have. Being that Beck is leading the conservative reactionary wave at the moment, most Leftists and anarchists see him as being a pivotal opponent, at complete odds with Left values and political objectives.<br />
You try to tell us that we have commonality with Beck because he rants against the health care reform, against &#8220;big government&#8221;? Please! The Right always does that when they think those programs support forms of equality. Can&#8217;t you see that his &#8220;opposition to government intervention&#8221; is also a market-oriented worldview, vastly different than anarchists&#8217; vision of a bottom-up, democratically organized society? Here you come off looking like you support the neoliberals. Do you really mean that?<br />
And you side with Beck against the healthcare reform, rather than pushing for demands for free, universal healthcare? What do you think that alliance of yours will bring? A collapse of the state and capitalism? Please. Dream on.<br />
And then you tell us how you agree with the Tea Party wingnuts  because of their twisted &#8220;anti-elitism&#8221; and superficial resentment towards Wall Street. Do you know much about the Right&#8217;s politics, and how they have always had a moralistic, superficial &#8220;anti-capitalism&#8221; that is based in Christian morality, not social justice or opposition to exploitation and capital accumulation?<br />
And then you try to tell Glenn Beck that he is really a revolutionary, and that revolutionaries are good. Please. The conservative reaction sees itself as revolutionary when their party is not in office, or when they want to Republicans to go further with anti-immigrant legislation. &#8220;Tea Party&#8221;? &#8220;Minutemen&#8221;? Sorry, but your &#8220;Open Letter&#8221; is a real mess.</p>
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		<title>Comment on YES, I want to help restore the Haymarket Martyrs Monument. by kate</title>
		<link>http://www.revolutionbythebook.akpress.org/yes-i-want-to-help-restore-the-haymarket-martyrs-monument/#comment-465</link>
		<dc:creator>kate</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 02 Sep 2010 12:29:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>For what it&#039;s worth, the Illinois Labor History Society has some good folks involved, or at least, the people I&#039;ve interacted with are mostly awesome. I know a number of old Chicago Wobblies (including Franklin Rosemont) who have been involved with the ILHS. In fact, if I recall correctly, Franklin used to lead the May Day tour of Waldheim for the ILHS.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>For what it&#8217;s worth, the Illinois Labor History Society has some good folks involved, or at least, the people I&#8217;ve interacted with are mostly awesome. I know a number of old Chicago Wobblies (including Franklin Rosemont) who have been involved with the ILHS. In fact, if I recall correctly, Franklin used to lead the May Day tour of Waldheim for the ILHS.</p>
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		<title>Comment on YES, I want to help restore the Haymarket Martyrs Monument. by john</title>
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		<dc:creator>john</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 30 Aug 2010 21:23:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>As far as I can tell, Altgeld never pardoned the martyrs, he pardoned Samuel Fielden, Oscar Neebe, and Michael Schwab, who were all still alive and in prison and who were freed as a result.  Even though Altgeld was (being Governor and all) far from an anarchist, his pardon was also a pretty spot-on excoriation of the frame-up of the martyrs, and he basically threw away his political career for the sake of justice.

The ILHS has a good article about the whole pardon: 
 http://www.kentlaw.edu/ilhs/prisoner.htm
which concludes with a quote from Lucy Parsons, no less, about Altgeld: &quot;He was a man before he was a politician.&quot;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>As far as I can tell, Altgeld never pardoned the martyrs, he pardoned Samuel Fielden, Oscar Neebe, and Michael Schwab, who were all still alive and in prison and who were freed as a result.  Even though Altgeld was (being Governor and all) far from an anarchist, his pardon was also a pretty spot-on excoriation of the frame-up of the martyrs, and he basically threw away his political career for the sake of justice.</p>
<p>The ILHS has a good article about the whole pardon:<br />
 <a href="http://www.kentlaw.edu/ilhs/prisoner.htm" rel="nofollow">http://www.kentlaw.edu/ilhs/prisoner.htm</a><br />
which concludes with a quote from Lucy Parsons, no less, about Altgeld: &#8220;He was a man before he was a politician.&#8221;</p>
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		<title>Comment on YES, I want to help restore the Haymarket Martyrs Monument. by Margaret</title>
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		<dc:creator>Margaret</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 28 Aug 2010 22:54:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I don&#039;t know how I feel about this.

Don&#039;t get me wrong: I&#039;ve been on pilgrimage there myself, and it was one of the more emotional moments of my life. I have George Engel and his last words (&quot;Hoch Die Anarchie!&quot;) tattooed on me. The Haymarket martyrs matter to me.

But two things about this bother me. One of the plaques at the site is incredibly offensive to me, and if it were the one that was stolen I would be absolutely glad. The dominant plaque on the back of the monument is the words of the Governor who pardoned them after their deaths. I do not care one whit that the State determined after they were already dead to pardon them.

I expect Mumia and Mr. Peltier will be posthumously pardoned as well.

Second, I don&#039;t know if I trust the Chicago Labor History society if they make statements like &quot; Some may visit in worship of ancient dogmas.&quot;

I am not an adherent of an &quot;ancient dogma.&quot; And the goals have not changed. We demand the abolition of wage labor, capitalism, and the stateform.

$30,000 would go a long way towards maintaining existing anarchist spaces or creating new ones. The most inspiring elements of the gravesite in chicago is the &quot;graffiti&quot; left by the &quot;vandals&quot; anyhow.

I&#039;m sure there is an anarchist sculptor or metalworker who would be honored to replace the missing portions of the sculpture.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I don&#8217;t know how I feel about this.</p>
<p>Don&#8217;t get me wrong: I&#8217;ve been on pilgrimage there myself, and it was one of the more emotional moments of my life. I have George Engel and his last words (&#8220;Hoch Die Anarchie!&#8221;) tattooed on me. The Haymarket martyrs matter to me.</p>
<p>But two things about this bother me. One of the plaques at the site is incredibly offensive to me, and if it were the one that was stolen I would be absolutely glad. The dominant plaque on the back of the monument is the words of the Governor who pardoned them after their deaths. I do not care one whit that the State determined after they were already dead to pardon them.</p>
<p>I expect Mumia and Mr. Peltier will be posthumously pardoned as well.</p>
<p>Second, I don&#8217;t know if I trust the Chicago Labor History society if they make statements like &#8221; Some may visit in worship of ancient dogmas.&#8221;</p>
<p>I am not an adherent of an &#8220;ancient dogma.&#8221; And the goals have not changed. We demand the abolition of wage labor, capitalism, and the stateform.</p>
<p>$30,000 would go a long way towards maintaining existing anarchist spaces or creating new ones. The most inspiring elements of the gravesite in chicago is the &#8220;graffiti&#8221; left by the &#8220;vandals&#8221; anyhow.</p>
<p>I&#8217;m sure there is an anarchist sculptor or metalworker who would be honored to replace the missing portions of the sculpture.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Uses of a Whirlwind Book Party @ AK Press by kate</title>
		<link>http://www.revolutionbythebook.akpress.org/uses-of-a-whirlwind-book-party-ak-press/#comment-457</link>
		<dc:creator>kate</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 04 Aug 2010 20:36:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>For a preview of what&#039;s in store for you lucky folks out in the Bay Area, check out the audio from Craig Hughes&#039;s talk on Uses of a Whirlwind a couple of weeks ago at Red Emma&#039;s:

http://www.redemmas.org/books/102/

Also, Team Colors will present the book at Modern Times Books in SF on Sunday, August 8, at 3PM. Two chances to see your favorite geographically-dispersed militant research collective in the Bay!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>For a preview of what&#8217;s in store for you lucky folks out in the Bay Area, check out the audio from Craig Hughes&#8217;s talk on Uses of a Whirlwind a couple of weeks ago at Red Emma&#8217;s:</p>
<p><a href="http://www.redemmas.org/books/102/" rel="nofollow">http://www.redemmas.org/books/102/</a></p>
<p>Also, Team Colors will present the book at Modern Times Books in SF on Sunday, August 8, at 3PM. Two chances to see your favorite geographically-dispersed militant research collective in the Bay!</p>
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		<title>Comment on Telling it like it is by Zach</title>
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		<dc:creator>Zach</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 03 Aug 2010 08:37:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Yeah, no doubt. Well put.

The way I read Joe&#039;s message is that he&#039;s more comfortable taking the liberals to task for three reasons: a) he was an admitted &quot;coastal&quot; liberal for some time before moving back &quot;home&quot; so he&#039;s maybe exorcising his own demons a bit and b) related to the former he sees liberals as imperfect, yet natural, allies and c) illuminating a working class culture that&#039;s worthy as-is, and capable of transformation in the here and now, and framing it in opposition to liberal and conservative ideologies could potentially build confidence for the class as-such, without Joe having to perpetually frame his arguments in reaction to white middle class values (your example above is illustrative).

Now, if I am guessing correctly about Joe&#039;s approach we have to remember, as he says, the book wasn&#039;t written with an expectation that his family and neighbors would devour it—it was aimed at liberals. And people can agree or disagree whether liberals are natural allies (or to what extent they may be in the US today). That said, it&#039;s a refreshing book and offers much food for thought for radicals too. Which only brings us back to your point, to paraphrase: how does the US working class define its own interests without being influenced, led, or hijacked by middle and upper class values (which includes a healthy dose of racism, xenophobia, etc., etc.)? And yet still, how does it navigate those persistent values on its own terms, accepting and rejecting what&#039;s useful with an eye toward social and economic freedom? 

These questions are as crucial today for anarchists as they&#039;ve been for the last 150-odd years. I guess that&#039;s what struck me most about Joe&#039;s book: it reminded me how far removed the vast majority of the anarchist movement is from the very people that at its most heroic times were its allies and constituents. 

thanks.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yeah, no doubt. Well put.</p>
<p>The way I read Joe&#8217;s message is that he&#8217;s more comfortable taking the liberals to task for three reasons: a) he was an admitted &#8220;coastal&#8221; liberal for some time before moving back &#8220;home&#8221; so he&#8217;s maybe exorcising his own demons a bit and b) related to the former he sees liberals as imperfect, yet natural, allies and c) illuminating a working class culture that&#8217;s worthy as-is, and capable of transformation in the here and now, and framing it in opposition to liberal and conservative ideologies could potentially build confidence for the class as-such, without Joe having to perpetually frame his arguments in reaction to white middle class values (your example above is illustrative).</p>
<p>Now, if I am guessing correctly about Joe&#8217;s approach we have to remember, as he says, the book wasn&#8217;t written with an expectation that his family and neighbors would devour it—it was aimed at liberals. And people can agree or disagree whether liberals are natural allies (or to what extent they may be in the US today). That said, it&#8217;s a refreshing book and offers much food for thought for radicals too. Which only brings us back to your point, to paraphrase: how does the US working class define its own interests without being influenced, led, or hijacked by middle and upper class values (which includes a healthy dose of racism, xenophobia, etc., etc.)? And yet still, how does it navigate those persistent values on its own terms, accepting and rejecting what&#8217;s useful with an eye toward social and economic freedom? </p>
<p>These questions are as crucial today for anarchists as they&#8217;ve been for the last 150-odd years. I guess that&#8217;s what struck me most about Joe&#8217;s book: it reminded me how far removed the vast majority of the anarchist movement is from the very people that at its most heroic times were its allies and constituents. </p>
<p>thanks.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Telling it like it is by alwayshistoricize</title>
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		<dc:creator>alwayshistoricize</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 02 Aug 2010 22:43:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Yes, Joe has a way with words. 
 
The only problem that I have with his reflexive condemnation of middle class &quot;liberals&quot; is that he tends to leave out the middle class reactionary statists who manage to do so much more damage to the ideological landscape.  While it is correct that, as a demographic, the rightist middle class tends to be lower on the socioeconomic scale than its liberal counterpart on the coasts, it constitutes a body of resentment far away from being anywhere near the bottom-rung earning categories of those whom Joe so vigorously defends.  
What is crucial here is that we somehow manage to distinguish between a legitimate grievance among the working poor (e.g. “liberals have the gall to ridicule our religious faith and cultural habits while simultaneously living in affluence via the surplus extracted from generations of our labor”) manifesting itself in knee-jerk jingoism from an illegitimate grievance among the white middle class (e.g. “My 401k took a major it because the Community Reinvestment Act forced a bank to hand money to some lazy blacks in the form of a home loan”) organizing itself into concerted political action via the machinations concentrated capital.  

http://coldtype.net/joe.html</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yes, Joe has a way with words. </p>
<p>The only problem that I have with his reflexive condemnation of middle class &#8220;liberals&#8221; is that he tends to leave out the middle class reactionary statists who manage to do so much more damage to the ideological landscape.  While it is correct that, as a demographic, the rightist middle class tends to be lower on the socioeconomic scale than its liberal counterpart on the coasts, it constitutes a body of resentment far away from being anywhere near the bottom-rung earning categories of those whom Joe so vigorously defends.<br />
What is crucial here is that we somehow manage to distinguish between a legitimate grievance among the working poor (e.g. “liberals have the gall to ridicule our religious faith and cultural habits while simultaneously living in affluence via the surplus extracted from generations of our labor”) manifesting itself in knee-jerk jingoism from an illegitimate grievance among the white middle class (e.g. “My 401k took a major it because the Community Reinvestment Act forced a bank to hand money to some lazy blacks in the form of a home loan”) organizing itself into concerted political action via the machinations concentrated capital.  </p>
<p><a href="http://coldtype.net/joe.html" rel="nofollow">http://coldtype.net/joe.html</a></p>
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